Rumblings & Bumblings: Gas and Tolls

Tuesday, March 21, 2006, by Joshua

[It's that time of the week again, when Curbed readers ask and answer each other's questions about development doings around town. Email more questions, comments, or luscious digital photos to tips@curbed.com—or drop a note in the comments below. Answers sanitized for your protection on Thursday.]

1) East Village: "A very large lot has been cleared some time ago on East 13th Street (some of it stretching to 14th Street) between 2nd and 3rd Avenues. Recently, some trailers that appear to be temporary developer headquarters have pulled up along the 13th Street side of the lot. What is being built here? Anyone know?" [Earlier speculation was that this was related to a Toll Bros project. Anybody confirm or deny? -ed.]
2) Chelsea: Weekly Chelsea clusterfuck (non-gas edition): a) "As if there wasn't enough construction occurring on west 22nd street (between 6th and 7th), it is now looking like a new project is getting read to start. After a slow start and some delays, the Soma building (south side of the street, close to 6th) is rapidly nearing completion. Across the street the excavation of the plot is gaining momentum and today they have the street opened up to lay pipes. And lastly and most recently, scaffolding has gone up in front of the 6 or so buildings which have been vacated recently. The plot is massive so I'm guessing a new condo project will be coming to the street. Can anybody confirm this?
b) "Additionally, excavation has started in the parking lot on the north side of 21st street, close to 6th. If anybody has any info on this project, please post."
3) Harlem: "does anyone know what's happening with the former women's jail at the corner of w. 121st street and mt. morris park west in harlem? renovations have been going on for several months, and i can assume that someone is turning it into luxury condos or co-ops. but you never know...."
4) Chelsea: Weekly Chelsea clusterfuck (gas edition): a) "I was wondering if anyone knew what was going into the space at 34th and 10th Ave, where the gas station used to be? I live up the street, and we've all been thinking we're next." [[Second time's a charm on this one, we can feel it. -ed]
b) "So I noticed this morning that they're finally tearing down the last remnants of the old Exxon gas station/Dunkin' Donuts at 23rd and 10th Ave (see earlier demo above). I've read that they're building another residential condo/retail building, but do you guys have any details/designs/drawings?" [We had this one tagged as a Boymelgreen. Whose got more? -ed.]

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Lot on 13th to 14th St between 2nd & 3rd Aves is owned by the Milstein Family. Milstein bought the large lot almost 20 years ago and is sitting on it, probably waiting to acquire some of the properties on 14th St to make it a larger, more rectangular site. The trailer in front of it is for the Toll Brothers 3rd Avenue site.

By Anonymous at March 21, 2006 10:15 AM

did you turn off the comments in the murray hill photos post? why can't i see all 48 of them in their irate glory?

also, will someone please buy the space that used to be occupied by mekong (south side of prince st between mott and mulberry) and put something there that does not involve the sale of shoes, bags, or jewelry?

thanks!

By katiebakes at March 21, 2006 10:16 AM

Word in the environmental circles is the Gas station on 23rd street bust a leak and they had to do a clean-up before they put new tanks in... but after looking into it I see that there is a $25,000,000 landlease that took effect on 11/6/2005, for 10 Chelsea, LLC which I'm guessing is the new name of the building that will be built there.

By anon at March 21, 2006 10:34 AM

THANK YOU for removing the Murray Hill posts. I'm all for free speech, but those comments were heading to a place I truly believe this site doesn't want to go.

If you really do want advertisers in the future (which is what it seems the recent survey you asked us all to participate in will be used for), I suggest you continue to police these threads in this manner. Advertisers usually try to avoid sites that allow for racial slurs, etc. At least the kind of advertisers you want, anyway.

By Anonymous at March 21, 2006 10:35 AM

Toll Brothers is building in Manhattan? Oh god.

By Anon at March 21, 2006 10:52 AM

The 23rd Street gas station site is going to be rentals, last I heard--not condos. That makes more sense for leased land. The few condos developers have built on leased land have turned out to be quite hard to sell--witness how long the Gwathmey Sculpture for Living units have been on sitting on the market. It's hard to justify paying millions of dollars for a property you can't even leave to your heirs...

By Anonymous at March 21, 2006 11:02 AM

In more chelsea news...it looks like he old "olympia Deli" building on 6th & 25th is coming down soon. I noticed today the window glass has all been removed. What's up? Also a 4 story building just up 6th between 25th-26th has truckloads of sheetrock going in and it looks like a renovation. Anyone know what's going on? Its like a union meeting hall near 26th.

By Chelsea Redux at March 21, 2006 11:54 AM

I live across the street from the 13th Street lot and the only actual construction I've seen going on over there have been in the form of workers throwing junk off the top of one of the buildings on 14th. And I walk by that site several times a day, so I can only assume they're still sitting on it.

By Sarah at March 21, 2006 5:31 PM