The Brooklyn View From Up High at Northside Piers

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Wow... how much $$$ for the "corridor" view? AND... how long a trip down the fucking elevator to the... Duane Reade or if its "upscale," an Eckerd, that will be default retail there?

How many times a day, even with good drugs, can you jerkoff over a fucking "view"?

"Wow," New York sure is big... "wow."

Ya'll moved here for what reason(s) again?

xxoo,

TSAT

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Grew up here and I think I could manage to yank one out each morning with my OJ and I say to myself- "Wow, I got a kick ass view"

Although I am sure the elevator ride would be a deal breaker- same excuse I use(d) at work.

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Hey, why doesn't some groovy "liberal" New Yorker ask Toll Bros. about their environmental record? So much golf... so little time to actually follow the fucking LAW. But enough money from McMansion asswipes they can lawyer their way to NYC, or just pay the fucking fines.

Toll Bros simps: what happened on Bond Street, huh?

These guys are total scumbags & Curbed oughta do a little-- just a LITTLE-- reporting once in a while.

It's kicking you right in the cunt, whether you can feel it or not.

Ciao,

Greeny

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The view is pretty cool, right now. There is going to be a 75 foot "corridor" that you will be see through, so most of apartments will lose almost all of their view. I would imagine tower 2 and tower 3 would be a whole of a lot more interesting, as they will have views that would not be blocked (at least untill they decide to fill-in the East River).

I think brokers have to be honest about the view, as it is in their offering plan, they already say that those other 2 buildings are going up. Also, if you really start asking questions, you find out that the Edge will block pretty much everything on the north side. Also there is a conversion project on the south side that will go up to the 16th floor and block the view for those condos as well.

I don't know if there is Duane Reade coming, but that would be nice!!

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They are high speed elevtors.

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word was that there were 600 people at the advantage day

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I agree with Blah

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"It's kicking you right in the cunt, whether you can feel it or not."

Damn, that's good - mind if I use that one in the future (I'll be sure to credit Greeny)

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600 sounds about right...I was only there for a few hours but there were maybe 150 at any given time.

everyone wants a view.. are there really people who want an apt that looks out onto a brick wall 3 feet away? it's just a matter of where it is on your priority list.

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Q: Where's the high-speed REPORTING to tell us what happened to Toll Bros. on Bond St in...

BROOKLYN?

Ya'll might as well write your check directly the GW Bush or Halliburton. Toll Bros. as "corporate citizens" (excusez moi mon francaise) are at nearly the same level.

Ya'll can live 25 stories up if you want-- why you'd move to BROOKLYN to do that fuck knows but hi-rise is the "new suburb"& ya'll KNOW the only black person there will be a doorman-- but don't delude yourselves about those assholes national track record.

Any journalists peeking in here from inside their cubes? It's not a difficult, or obscure, story but start on Bond Street. It's a DOOZY!

xoxo,

HTJ

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I have a view of the river down the street on Kent, and I masturbate like 3 times a day to it...

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Sorry but these views are weak compared to LIC's.

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Yea are they going to install one of those Empire State telescopes too? It seems like those buildings are far away

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I'll try this again. My girlfriend dragged me down to the sales office yesterday for a look around and welcome Northside to the neighborhood. The sales agent said that the second tower has a groundbreaking scheduled for early next year and the third tower depends on the success of the previous two. She said that work may begin on tower 3 in possibly three years. She could have been telling the truth but I'm guessing she wants potential buyers to believe that their views will last a few years. The place is a warzone and what, they're going to occupy 1, construct-sell-occupy 2, and then clean up the place and wait and see if they're successful? I dont think so. I bet the towers will go up 1-2-3, and be completed in 3 years tops. Anyone who believes the broker's statements on views should think of the bottom line (developers putting food on their tables). Competition will surely speed up the completion process as well. The Edge will soon be on the heels of Northside and each developer isn't likely to flinch when it comes to building out their blocks. Sure, the Edge may use the same 'one tower at a time' approach to possibly fool each buyer into thinking their view will have some lifespan, but in my opinion these temporary views will have permanent cranes in them until everything is done.
By the way, the agent said that the esplanade/pier wont be done until tower 3 is. Blam

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#15 I think you may have a point there. Of course they're going to build straight away. They are trying to appear to be honest but they are reps/brokers so.... I heard they have sold 60 out of the 180 units they have. Not sure how much I believe that, but prices are good psf. The inland facing views are a lil dissapointing for now, but with Greenpoint and Bushwick on the up, it could better, I guess, if you like that sort of tower block look. What else....no, i think im done.

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oh! here's one from the Illinois State Atty General's Office:

How fucking DUMB are you so-called "sophisticated" "New Yorkers"? can't wait for some broker jackoff to LIE LIE LIE about who you're buying from, quality of construction, etc.

Robert Guskind: fuck you too you lazy goddamn simp. Do some motherfucking WORK! once in a while instead of trying to be Mr. Irony; you're a HORRIBLE photographer too.

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MADIGAN, WALLER FILE SUIT FOR WATER POLLUTION, PERMIT VIOLATIONS AT LAKE COUNTY DEVELOPMENT

Chicago - Attorney General Lisa Madigan and Lake County State’s Attorney Michael Waller today filed suit against the developer of a Lake County residential golf community alleging that inadequate stormwater management during construction allowed runoff to impact neighboring property and pollute a creek that leads to the Des Plaines River.

Toll Brothers, Inc., a Pennsylvania corporation, doing business as Toll Brothers Homes, Inc., 1156 West Shure Drive, Suite 160, in Arlington Heights, is named as the defendant in the five-count lawsuit filed in Lake County Circuit Court. The firm is currently developing Hawthorn Woods Country Club (HWCC) on 679 acres in Hawthorn Woods.

According to Madigan and Waller’s lawsuit, in December 2004, the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency (IEPA) inspected the site in response to complaints from property owners belonging to the neighboring Countryside Lake Association and from the Lake County Health Department of heavy amounts of silt-laden stormwater runoff entering the lake from the HWCC site. Inspectors attributed the runoff to an unseeded area of the development where a single silt fence provided little or no erosion control. IEPA inspections in late December 2004 and additional inspections in 2005 and 2006 revealed continued severe erosion problems that resulted in highly turbid and discolored water flowing into Countryside Lake.

Indian Creek originates within the development and flows through the adjacent private property that is part of the Countryside Lake Association and is a major tributary of Countryside Lake, which drains into the Des Plaines river. Countryside Lake provides recreational facilities for approximately 1,200 people who reside along and in the vicinity of the lake which also provides a habitat for numerous wildlife, waterfowl and birds.

“It appears that Mother Nature helped to illustrate that not enough precautions were put in place to avoid severe runoff during bad weather,” Madigan said. “There really is no reason why development and environmental safeguards can’t coexist in a project of this magnitude.”

The complaint asks the court to order Toll Brothers to take immediate steps to halt the discharge of stormwater runoff and resulting erosion at the site and to impose civil penalties of $50,000 dollars for each violation and an additional $10,000 for each day the violations continued for alleged water pollution and failure to utilize adequate stormwater controls that resulted in the developer’s failure to comply with terms of its National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) permit.

Madigan and Waller’s suit also contains allegations stemming from a January 2005 IEPA inspection that revealed Toll Brothers constructed a sanitary sewer line and two lift stations and laid drinking water lines at the site without first obtaining construction permits from the IEPA. The suit seeks civil penalties of $50,000 for each violation and an additional $10,000 for each day the violations continued.

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there are only about a jillion other examples & hey, when is Bond St going to be done again & how many violations have they racked up?

Best Wishes,

MBK

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million dollar views

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Sorry, #15, I'm not one to normally defend large corporations (and I'm sure Toll Bros. has their own issues), but getting fined for improper SILT RUNOFF doesn't seem like a Haliburtonesque offense.
Would've been nice if they built their urban projects a bit greener.

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Sorry, I meant #17, not #15. Oh, #15...sorry about your girlfriend.

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Dude, I just pulled up the first "official" thing that came up; I ain't get paid for this unlike that asswipe Guskind.

Seriously, Toll Bros has a very very VERY long list of what seem very legit grievances against them ** all over the U.S. where they operate **.

Check w/nearly ANY national, regional or local environmental group, "green" architect/lanscaper, etc etc.

THEN-- just to correlate-- look at what went down on Bond St and tell me the parts don't add up?

Malfeasance is malfeasance, whether these jackoffs or on international level w/GWB. I acknowledge different result, global impact but the ethos is EXACTLY the same.

A little research goes a l-o-n-g way--

xoxo,

HTJ

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number one: the construction manager, not toll brothers is at fault for the silt runoff, and any other construction happening, put the blame in the right place people...

number two: the toll brothers HAVE and DO utilize green aspects in their construction, just not enough to acquire LEED acreditation.

you people are so bored and hope on the band wagon on just about anything!!!! toll brothers, williamsburg, this that.... and fuck curbed for posting this BULLSHIT that you know will get the commenting going. there are other ways to know your site is being read. don't you know anything about marketing?

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ummm have any of your worked in development? a lot of the time the devloper doesn't have the funding the complete 3 projects at a time, they do one, sell, start the other, sell so on so forth. why don't you think the freedom tower, tower one, two three are being built at the same time?

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SO...

what happened, & is happening on Bond St, "green machine"?

We know ALL about "marketing," it's what Toll Bros ** DOES ** to catch simps like you (& I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of them).

The story of political corruption, payoffs, lack of enforcement etc etc. in Toll Bros. is well known and documentable.

That the media, & politicos, don't OFTEN want to rock the boat doesn't make it FALSE, nor does it make the American landdcscape any better post-Horsham Toof Jackasses.

your move, mi amigo.

xxoo,

ENGM

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HELLO marketing questing RE: Curbed, not Toll you idiot!